Monday, November 16, 2009

Parents of Ivy Sarah Capon born 1900 and Olive Odessa Phylis Capon born 1902 ??

Both born in Kent, England. Emigrated to USA 1912. (Camden, New Jersey)


Ivy married Albert Hennis Menz, Olive, known as Phylis, married someone surnamed James. Maybe American records are more accessible . Ivy died in August 1986. Phylis sometime before this.


Thanks to all the people who have answered, but I still don't have the parents!

Parents of Ivy Sarah Capon born 1900 and Olive Odessa Phylis Capon born 1902 ??
After searching extensively on Ancestry.com, this is what I've come up with on both Ivy and Phylis:





According to the "English and Wales Free BMDBirth Index 1837-1983",





Name: Ivy Sarah S. Capon


Year of Registration: 1900


Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep


District: Maidstone


County: Kent





Name: Olive Odessa P. Capon


Year of Registration: 1903


Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar


District: Malling


County: Kent





If you could furnish the names of some other brothers and sisters, I (or someone else) might be able to come up with the names of the parents.
Reply:Thank you, GenevievesMom, I feel well %26amp; truly told off!!!!


Tried to order certs, my card was refused.


Persons under my Gran's maiden name. Want to know if they were hers, or adopted from her brother who died at 28. I know other siblings, they were under my grandads name. Report It

Reply:If you know some of your great-aunts and uncle's names, maybe we can come up with a census entry. Report It

Reply:sometimes it takes years and years to find parents names. Why don't you check the manifest of the ship they arrived on and see if on the second page (if the manifest has one) it lists a parent. Also any church records may show their parents names, or application for marriage license.
Reply:Zena Rae gave you the answer in your previous question. The only way you are going to find the names of the parents is by ordering a copy of one or other of their birth certificates.
Reply:Perhaps I'm reading something into this that isn't there, but it appears that you're only looking for information from the internet and aren't looking for information in the obvious places off the internet.





You have Ivy's date and place of death, but haven't ordered her death certificate and didn't pull her obituary? Start there. Even if you don't want to pay for the record, you can track down the funeral home that handled the funeral and call them to get the information. They had to get a copy of her death certificate in order to get the burial certificate. They placed the obituary for the family and have to keep a copy of it for years in case there's a dispute.





We've given you the index information for their birth records, but you haven't sent away for a copy of the record? The index is no more than a reference to tell us where the record is...now you just send away for a copy of it.





I went through several databases and can tell the following. Ivy and Albert loved traveling. They went back and forth to England after WWII. They went on vacation to Bermuda. And every time Ivy returned to the US, she re-entered the US on a British passport. As of the mid-1950s she hadn't applied for citizenship. Sitting in the National Archives is a set of records on her called "Alien Registration Cards". They'll tell you all of the information you're looking for (or where to find it). But this information is never going to be fully digitized and available on the internet.





You even have the name of her husband and could go down to the Cape May county building and request a copy of their marriage record to get the information. But because of privacy laws you won't find it on the internet for several years.





While the internet is a wonderful tool, it's only one of many that we have to use in doing solid genealogy research. Good genealogy is never free and never found only on a computer.


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